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Re: Migrate site.html to CMSimple_XH

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:53 pm
by Tata
Korwin wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:46 pm
Just the opposite, I intend to copy the pages through the built-in editor CMSimple_XH, (Ctrl-C => Ctrl-V) and then fix the code a bit in content.html
For CMSimple_XH < 1.6x there was created the content.htm and separate pagedata.php. It means that if you'd merge all pages into one content.htm file (the pages are separated only by their headings H1...H3), the pagedata.php should be created automatically.
There'd be necessary to save used files (images etc.) into relevant subdirectories of /userfiles and adjust paths in content.htm (this can be easily done in exterenal editor by "replace" function. Conversion of such webpage to e.g. v1.6.10 is then absolute simple using exchange_xh plugin. The same is then with conversion from v1.6.10 to v1.7.2.
Not tested, but I think this shall work.

Re: Migrate site.html to CMSimple_XH

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:22 pm
by cmb
Tata wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:53 pm
For CMSimple_XH < 1.6x there was created the content.htm and separate pagedata.php. It means that if you'd merge all pages into one content.htm file (the pages are separated only by their headings H1...H3), the pagedata.php should be created automatically.
It's probably harder to join existing HTML pages into an CMSimple_XH 1.6 content.htm, than into an CMSimple_XH 1.7 content.htm, because likely the existing pages all have an <h1> element.
Korwin wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:46 pm
All html pages are in my root site and have readable URLs in English (and the pages in Russian, of course). For example: http://urql.ru/indetermine_games_consept.html
Can I save these URLs when creating pages in CMSimple_XH, for example in this form:
http://urql.ru/?indetermine_games_consept so that there is one redirect rule, and not its own for each page?
I see a problem in that the menu displays English urls, not Russian text. Is it possible to fix this or is it easier to make one redirect to each page?
There is no built-in possibility to have English URLs, but Russian menu texts. However, I think the basic question is whether you want to stick with the English URLs – Russian URLs might be more user friendly for your audience (and unlikely cause any issues like they may have been many years ago). If you want to switch to Russian URLs, you'd have to use multiple redirect/rewrite rules. If you want to stick with the English URLs, you'd have to set up some mapping for each URL; so basically the same effort is required. If you want to stick with the English URLs, I can provide a small code snippet for userfuncs.php based on https://github.com/cmb69/seo_xh/commit/ ... fdc4df5c69.

Re: Migrate site.html to CMSimple_XH

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:07 pm
by olape
cmb wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:38 am
Moved_XH doesn't work in this case, because it will not even see URLs like httр://sitename/page.html.
I'm sorry, my mistake.

Re: Migrate site.html to CMSimple_XH

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:02 pm
by meltemi
Korwin wrote:I have a few old sites on pure html, with pages having an extension http://sitename/page.html for example http://urql.ru
I want to move them to CMSimple_XH.
Tell me how to do it, so as not to lose positions in the search engines?
привет,

that would be two big changes for Google: new urls and new page structure (because of the new system).

Both will certainly trigger a revaluation on Google, which can take several weeks. During the revaluation you lose your previous positions on Google. After the revaluation, your positions on Google are either better or the same or worse: full risk!

Don't do it, keep your aktual system.

I can not comment on Bing and Yandex (no knowledge).

Re: Migrate site.html to CMSimple_XH

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:35 pm
by Tata
Hm, the last news has been published in May 2013! So there is not very much actual on the page.

Date: October 24 2018
Google PageRank: 2/10
cPR Score: 2.1/10

I don't think the expected loss in triggerin a revaluation on Google would be so bad. Korwin sent me the webpage. The CMS background is incomparible to CMSimple_XH. There is also not that much to convert. There are many redirections and links to other external pages.

I already have conterted almost everything on this webpage to CMSimple_1.7.2.
Have a look at http://quest172.cmsimple.sk

Re: Migrate site.html to CMSimple_XH

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:53 pm
by meltemi
Tata wrote:I already have conterted almost everything on this webpage to CMSimple_1.7.2.
Have a look at http://quest172.cmsmimple.sk
You generate duplicate content because of

Code: Select all

<meta name="robots" content="index, follow">
Change index to noindex!

Re: Migrate site.html to CMSimple_XH

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:16 pm
by Tata
Of course, forgoten.

Re: Migrate site.html to CMSimple_XH

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:29 pm
by Korwin
meltemi wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:02 pm
Korwin wrote:I have a few old sites on pure html, with pages having an extension http://sitename/page.html for example http://urql.ru
I want to move them to CMSimple_XH.
Tell me how to do it, so as not to lose positions in the search engines?
hi,

that would be two big changes for Google: new urls and new page structure (because of the new system).

Both will certainly trigger a revaluation on Google, which can take several weeks. During the revaluation you lose your previous positions on Google. After the revaluation, your positions on Google are either better or the same or worse: full risk!

Don't do it, keep your aktual system.

I can not comment on Bing and Yandex (no knowledge).
Your comment is very valuable to me, since I was going to translate our commercial site dkmk.ru to CMSimple_XH for a good, but outdated flat file CMS Rumba 2.8 XML.

Tata experience with one of my hobby-site urql.ru made me understand that the structure will be changed, positions in search engines will temporarily fall, which could adversely affect the business. On the other hand, the CMSimple_XH site structure, which is clearer for users, may lead to an increase in traffic and, most importantly, conversion. I will think about it.

Re: Migrate site.html to CMSimple_XH

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:35 am
by olape
Tata wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:35 pm
I already have conterted almost everything on this webpage to CMSimple_1.7.2.
Have a look at http://quest172.cmsimple.sk
Hardworking, Respect
Tata wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:35 pm
I don't think the expected loss in triggerin a revaluation on Google would be so bad. Korwin sent me the webpage. The CMS background is incomparible to CMSimple_XH. There is also not that much to convert. There are many redirections and links to other external pages.
Oh yes, Google has to re-index all URLs again, backlinks are lost, ... The old ranking is gone. Only 301 really helps.

Re: Migrate site.html to CMSimple_XH

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:36 am
by Korwin
olape wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:35 am
Tata wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:35 pm
I already have conterted almost everything on this webpage to CMSimple_1.7.2.
Have a look at http://quest172.cmsimple.sk
Hardworking, Respect
It was wonderful! My admiration and a thousand thanks!
olape wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:35 am
Tata wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:35 pm
I don't think the expected loss in triggerin a revaluation on Google would be so bad. Korwin sent me the webpage. The CMS background is incomparible to CMSimple_XH. There is also not that much to convert. There are many redirections and links to other external pages.
Oh yes, Google has to re-index all URLs again, backlinks are lost, ... The old ranking is gone. Only 301 really helps.
Thanks! Now according to the pattern made by Tata, I'm a different website also carry on CMSimple_XH, and in parallel write the Russian user guide for migration.