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Re: System Requirements of CMSimple_XH

Post by Gert » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:40 pm

Holger wrote:But for me it's ok to stick on 4.3 with the core.
But I'll not rely on it with plugins.
That's ok, for your plugin ;)

Here we want to find out, if we should increase the System Requirements to php5 NOW or sometimes later.

If the majority wants it, we can archivate CMSimple_XH 1.x.x (keep downloadable latest version), and develop CMSimple_XH 2.0 for php5. Is php5 a reason for 2.0 :?:
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Re: System Requirements of CMSimple_XH

Post by cmb » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:46 pm

Hello Holger,
Holger wrote: Seems to be no systems for everybody:
Joomla 1.6: PHP 5.2+
CMS made simple: PHP 5.2.x
GetSimple: PHP 5.2+
That was my point, when I've written
cmb wrote: The currently very modest requirements of CMSimple might be a big bonus over most other CMSs.
AFAIK there only few CMSs out there, that doesn't need PHP5+. And IMHO for a simple System there's not too much need for OO, overloading, exceptions, reflection, xml and dom. And there's no need for SQLite, if you have regexps ;)

AFAIK the Zend Engine's better performance will be used if CMSimple is running under PHP5.
Holger wrote: But for me it's ok to stick on 4.3 with the core.
+ 1
Holger wrote: But I'll not rely on it with plugins.
Currently I try to avoid features of PHP > 4.3. But I don't know about the future.

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Re: System Requirements of CMSimple_XH

Post by Gert » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:48 pm

What I mean is:

We could make a final CMSimple_XH 1.5 with FCKeditor, jQuery4CMSimple and some minor fixes and keep it downloadable as the latest version for php4. Like we have CMSimple_XH 1.1.3 as the latest ANSI encoded version.

Status: Bugfixes only.

And then we can develop CMSimple_XH 2.0 for php5, with a modern Editor and Holgers Filemanager as a standard delivered plugin.
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Re: System Requirements of CMSimple_XH

Post by cmb » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:53 pm

Hello Gert,
Gert wrote: At the moment I would be afraid to support CMSimple 3.3 or LE with such a step.
IMO that's not only the point. If a user wants to update to a newer version requiring PHP5 and fails, he might switch back to CMSimple_XH 1.4.1. So there might be requests to support 1.4.1 with newer version. And perhaps a new fork will be born :(
Gert wrote: Is php5 a reason for 2.0
IMHO only, if PHP5's features would be used by many parts of the core package (and if they were used not only to use them, but for an even better CMSimple_XH).

Christoph

PS: sorry crossposting again; anyway ;)
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Re: System Requirements of CMSimple_XH

Post by cmb » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:02 pm

Hello developers,

did anybody had a look at http://tetlaw.id.au/view/blog/fckeditor ... ce-editor/. It's old code (2006), but perhaps it's usable. Just an idea.

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Re: System Requirements of CMSimple_XH

Post by Holger » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:07 pm

Sorry, forgot about the topic in the heat of the discussion :oops: .
Gert wrote:Here we want to find out, if we should increase the System Requirements to php5 NOW or sometimes later.
For now you should stay with 4.3. The core needs no PHP5.
Again sorry for confusion,

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Re: System Requirements of CMSimple_XH

Post by Holger » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:12 pm

cmb wrote:Hello developers,

did anybody had a look at http://tetlaw.id.au/view/blog/fckeditor ... ce-editor/. It's old code (2006), but perhaps it's usable. Just an idea.

Christoph
But first make a port to CK. It's already done and somewhere available on the net.
But I can't find it at the moment...

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Re: System Requirements of CMSimple_XH

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Re: System Requirements of CMSimple_XH

Post by cmb » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:20 pm

Hello Holger,

thanks for the information. Just took a glimpse at the tutorial, but it seems okay. Wouldn't that be a simple solution for CMSimple? No pun intended ;) AFAIK this wouldn't help with ckEditor, but anyway.

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Re: System Requirements of CMSimple_XH

Post by Gert » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:31 pm

Sorry, but now something in German again:

Wenn wir jetzt, kurz nach dem Switch zu utf-8, auch noch die Systemanforderungen auf php5 hochschrauben, leisten wir den Konservativen Vorschub, die CMSimple für php4 und ANSI bewahren wollen. Wer gerade unter Aufbietung all seiner Kräfte seine Homepage auf utf-8 umgestellt hat, und das auf einem Server mit php 4.x.x, hat dann vielleicht endgültig die Nase voll von CMSimple_XH.

Das verdrehte, verquere, paradoxe ist nun, dass wir selbst ein wenig konservativer sein sollten, als uns eigentlich lieb wäre, um die Leute nicht zu verscheuchen :mrgreen:

Sorry again, but the most posters here are Germans ;)
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